[linux] kde je problem pri presadeni linuxu na desktope?

[Juraj Bednar]

Ahoj,
> No a teraz konkretne:
> 1. Hry (komercne): komercne preto, lebo v hrach sa neplati za programovanie,
>    ale za "umenie". Preto open-source development model nezasyti trh.

yop, skoda, ze skrachovala firma Loki.

> 2. Ofis: existuje kopa ...... dokumentov ktore mi pod nicim spracovat nejdu. To
>    ze to casto nejde ani pod M$-Ofis si bezny uzivatel neuvedomi :-(.  (Raz
>    mal kazdy mesiac spracovat dokumenty, kde ked som prepol farbu pozadia
>    grafu na ciernu, MSOff 97 aj 2000 spadli.)

ja automaticky posielam kazdemu, kto mi posle ofisovsky dokument nieco
taketo:

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You sent the attachment in Microsoft Word format, a secret proprietary
format, so it is hard for me to read. If you send me plain text, HTML,
or PDF, then I will read it.

Distributing documents in Word format is bad for you and for others. You
can't be sure what they will look like if someone views them with a
different version of Word; they may not work at all.

Receiving Word attachments is bad for you because they can carry viruses
(see http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/acro.html). Sending
Word attachments is bad for you, because a Word document normally
includes hidden information about the author, enabling those in
the know to pry into the author's activities (maybe yours). Text
that you think you deleted may still be embarrassingly present. See
http://www.microsystems.com/Shares_Well.htm for more info.

But above all, sending people Word documents puts pressure on them to use
Microsoft software and helps to deny them any other choice. In effect,
you become a buttress of the Microsoft monopoly. This pressure is a
major obstacle to the broader adoption of free software. Would you please
reconsider the use of Word format for communication with other people?

Converting the file to HTML is simple. Open the document, click on File,
then Save As, and in the Save As Type strip box at the bottom of the
box, choose HTML Document or Web Page. Then choose Save. You can then
attach the new HTML document instead of your Word document. Note that
versions of Word change in inconsistent ways -- if you see slightly
different menu item names, please try them.

To convert to plain text is almost the same -- instead of HTML Document,
choose Text Only or Text Document as the Save As Type.

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Inak, neviem, ci ste si vsimli, ale Koffice a vsetky KDE aplikacie vedia
generovat PDF.

> 3. Specialne aplikacie: jediny dovod preco mam vmware a 98ky je "online
>    banking" od Bank Austria / Creditanstalt, lebo je to v Centure a ide len
>    pod Windowsom. Pod wine-om som to nerozchodil a plany podpory inych OS nie
>    su.

Si klient, tlac na banku. Ak sa neda, zmen banku (easy to say, heh, to
je pravda).

> 5. Ludia su lenivi: Windows ich naucil, ze najako sa k nejakemu vysledku
>    doklikaju aj ked nicomu nerozumeju. Objektivne porovnanie efektivnosti som
>    vsak nikde nevidel. Tiez psychologicke.

Ano. Zase -- ked to uz maju (legalne) a su s tym spokojni, je to ich
vec. 

Ako som povedal, nie je to v poriadku len v dvoch pripadoch: ak to
ukradli alebo ak to mam zaplatit ja (teda pouzivanie v statnej sprave).

> 6. Instalacia programov: O kvalite pomlcim, hovorim o jednoduchosti. Mne
>    nerobi problem napisat rpm -Uvh whatever, beznemu uzivatelovi hej.

MandrakeUpdate
rpmdrake

da sa doklikat z menu, velmi pekne, s tym nie je problem podla mna. V
KDE sa dokonca da kliknut na rpmko, otvori sa ti okienko s package
managerom (dokonca to funguje myslim aj pre .deb, ak pouzivate Debian).
Tam sa klikne na install a je to.

Toto je myth.

> Rozdelil by som to teda do kategorii:
> - psychologia -> najlepsie riesenie je ukazanie vysledkov a priebehu na
>   konkretnych prikladoch, ale treba to urobit poriadne a nie odflaknut. Tuna
>   je nedostatok, nemame dostatocne "Public Relations" oddelenie. To vsak
>   neznamena, ze sa tieto oblasti nemaju zlepsit aj po technickej stranke.

V tomto mas pravdu. Kopec ludi si mysli, ze linux je command-line only.
Uz som dlho rozmyslal nad tym -- ak niekto povie o Linuxe nieco, co nie
je pravda, tak mu to treba vysvetlit a zavesit niekde na linux.sk
screenshot. Mohlo by tam byt take, ze Bezne myty a ich zoznam, ku
kazdemu zopar screenshotov, ktore to vyvratia.

> - zavislost na proprietarnych rieseniach -> vyriesi sa, ked bude vacsi podiel
>   na trhu. O tom nepochybujem. Problem sliepky a vajca.

Ano. Ale treba na to tlacit. Vacsina ludi, ked dostane wordovsky
dokument, tak sa ho pokusi otvorit. Ja ho poslem naspat.

> V blizkej buducnosti sa masiny budu upgradovavat (resp. budu sa kupovat nove).
> Rozhodol som teda, ze na vsetky pojde linux, a na polku dualboot nejaky
> windows (aky najviac vyhovuje, maju zistit zodpovedni administratori
> praktickymi testmi). Takto jednak pomozem odstranit psychologicku barieru a
> jednak mozem lepsie zistit potreby bezneho uzivatela. Z takto nacerpanych
> skusenosti mozem potom lepsie vediet propagovat linux pre dalsich zakaznikov,
> a urcite sa v tuna v konfere o ne s vami podelim :-)

:-). Tesim sa. 

Urcite si precitaj toto:

http://desktoplinux.com/articles/AT9664091996.html
a
http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS4316549140.html

Je to real-world example toho, co chces spravit ty.



  Papa,

      Juraj.
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